jerome hess wrote in news <3822ae90.17650391@news-server- -and remember when you write to frank ask him the legal classification -of his business.

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-j NO Melaleuca is NOT never has been never will be.

Charles Brown wrote in news -Larry:

-Thanks for your reply!!!

-Just because someone is an Amway/Quixtar rep does not automatically make -someone bad. It is just a poor business decision if yo want high incomes and if you want residual income .

In article <7voqfp$cl@nnrp1.deja.com-,

w@my-deja.com wrote: - Why dont you do some checking Mr. Fact Man and report the truth about - how many people signed up in Quixtar last month, verses PEE.COM and - post your sources! Most of the people who signed up for Quixtar last month will drop out, become totally disillussioned, or become brainwashed ambot cult members. not exactly something to be proud of.

I am signing up for spree because 1) it is free to sign up, and 2) I actually get discounts on things that I REALLY buy.

The amway claim that you save on things that you already buy anyway is a hoax, because I normally DON'T buy the overpriced amway products

How hard is that to understand??

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In article <AEZT3.9$XI1.42@bunson.tor.sfl.net-, "Retire With Us Sooner" <no_s@hotmail.com- wrote:

- Charles Brown wrote in news - -Larry:

- -Thanks for your reply!!!

- -Just because someone is an Amway/Quixtar rep does not automatically make - -someone bad.

- It is just a poor business decision if yo want high incomes and if you want - residual income . And it's a crap shit business [Amway] and greedy people in it, that does not properly and adequately warn those that use it's products, of the potential harm and danger that can come to them, if they use one of these dangerous and hazardous Amway products.

And it's a poor business with low ethics and honor, that does not take care of one of the consuming public who is hurt by one of those dangerous and hazerdous products.

Amway is such a and Amway Metal Cleaner is such a product. It seems you two are in good .

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Retire With Us Sooner <no_s@hotmail.com- wrote in news

- jerome hess wrote in news <3822ae90.17650391@news-server- - -and remember when you write to frank ask him the legal classification - -of his business.

- -ummmm that would be spelled

- -j - NO Melaleuca is NOT never has been never will be. And you know how much it pains me to agree with Jerome, but

Like everything else you say Brian, it is the rantings of a brainwashed distributor. Your coined a phrase to hide behind. Period.

Let's just look at two things, OK?

Get out your Business Report.

See where it says:

Schedule I Personal Rebate? That would be your fictional "savings"

Schedule II Product Introduction Commission? New "customer" (recruit) . You do not earn a "commission" unless something was sold, do you? So much for "no selling!"

Schedule III Organization Commission? Those would be your overrides.

Just like every other in the Nutritional/Home/Health Care portion of the Industry.

Now, second, get out your 'Leadership in Action' monthly newsletter.

Now, open it up and read the articles about "Fast Track" and look at the lists of Executives, Directors, Senior Directors and Executive Directors, etc. Read the stories about how people were recruited at "in-home" meetings, made lists of all their friends and recruited their way to success! Oh, and while you are at it, go to the back and read all the Training Schedule information, and look through the magazine at all the advertising for banners, product kits, etc.

Now, tell me again that Melaleuca, despite the FTC considering it one, despite the Association considering it one, despite the fact that it looks, sounds and acts like one, is NOT an .

"No dancing" "No selling" "No lies"

Ya, right.

Oh, and which month are you listed in -- and which list?

Prepaid Millennium Associates prepaid 2000 at my-Deja dot com

"You are ONE QUALITY DECISION AWAY from anything you want." Jim Stovall

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Yes, I was in Worldwide Dreambuilders, under the Bill Britt, Ron Puryear, Jimmy Head, and Joe Foglio line. I have posted my story on the "Confessions of an Amway/Quixtar Cult Survivor" thread.

I have been there, and speak from experience.

In article <7vok14$8i@nnrp1.deja.com-,

larry2@my-deja.com wrote: - Were you ever involved with an AMO? If so which one? Who was your - upline if you were at one time a distributor?

- - Well, the lies, the deceipt, the manipulations, the cult tactics, - - the unabashed abuses, those are all part of the problem. Sent via Deja.com Before you buy.

Prepaid Millennium Associates wrote in news Did you know that Prepaid has breakaways, qualifyers and clawbacks? And unscupulous management from the now defunct "people's ?" Do you know about the fines paid by the owner of PPL?

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-- -j -- NO Melaleuca is NOT never has been never will be.

-And you know how much it pains me to agree with Jerome, but

-Like everything else you say Brian, it is the rantings of a brainwashed -distributor. I am not a distributor and no other person in Melaleuca is a distributor. We are all just customers. This tells me you know very little about the . companies often have distributors so the is point number (1) that Melaleuca is not .

- Your coined a phrase to hide behind. Period. Oh. you mean a registered trademarked term? "Consumer " Not a phrase a registered trademark granted for something that is unique or exclusive. Another point (2) to prove Melaleuca is not but really a customer SERVICE .

-Let's just look at two things, OK?

-Get out your Business Report.

-See where it says:

-Schedule I Personal Rebate? That would be your fictional "savings" No. It means if someone bought over 100 points worth of product you get another 25% refund. Yes, you could sell products I have never said you can't. But why would you? You would rob your customers of all the perks and their Profit Sharing Check ! Another distinct thing that sets Melaleuca apart from all companies where customers in Melaleuca get a check. (3) (not business builders -- customers <-

-Schedule II Product Introduction Commission? New "customer" -(recruit) . You do not earn a "commission" unless something -was sold, do you?

Absolutely. The customer phones 1-800-282-3000 and places their order. That is where Melaleuca is a service sending orders to the customers door. (Consumer ..) A concept copied by many other companies .My commission is from their order and orders of many other people I do not know. This is another reason Melaleuca is not (4).

-So -much for "no selling!" You are absolutely right Melaleuca sells to my customers and the customers they have reffered. The concept is much closer to Costco than any reason # (5) why Melaleuca is not . Or like a wholesale buying club in a better thought. With many customer perks. Want to read what they are?

-Schedule III Organization Commission? Those would be your overrides. Yes true residual or overrides. Very few companies have it.

-Just like every other in the Nutritional/Home/Health Care portion -of the Industry. Except many of they don't have true residual income .

Without inventory, selling or risk to me or any of my customers.

-Now, second, get out your 'Leadership in Action' monthly newsletter.

-Now, open it up and read the articles about "Fast Track" and look at the -lists of Executives, Directors, Senior Directors and Executive -Directors, etc. Read the stories about how people were recruited at -"in-home" meetings, made lists of all their friends and recruited their -way to success! Great concept isn't it. Getting people to change stores and being payed by for finding new customers for them.

True new customers were enrolled on behalf of Melaleuca. These customers now shop at Melaleuca and we reap the rewards for years. Melaleuca rewards people who take the time to sign up new customers for them. That is fair isn't it? With a 97% customer retention rate and a 96% reorder rate every month it fun to see your business grow even if you only make an order for your own consumption. The best stats out there.

Oh, and while you are at it, go to the back and read all the

-Training Schedule information, and look through the magazine at all the -advertising for banners, product kits, etc. Helping people to enroll new customers. There are so many great reasons to be a customer it takes a while to understand the power of great customer perks and where a customer can get free products NO has anything in place like that.

Why don't you see Melaleuca included in that magazine that goes out every month?

Frank said thanks for listing us at the top for such a long time but, Please we are not so remove us from the listings..

Why does every audio and video state we are not a ?

-Now, tell me again that Melaleuca, despite the FTC considering it one, Show the document from them. I am always willing to learn.

How about your American IRS and the Canadian Revenue Canada? Neither consider Melaleuca to be .

Customers pay taxes on the wholesale value of their purchase. Not the retail like EVERY OTHER . reason (6) Melaleuca is not .

Why would those 2 large tax governing bodies exempt Melaleuca from taxes on the retail? Because it is not a selling program and not . They understand the difference.

And how could it be a Multi-level when I have to phone customers and ask them if I can place a new enrolled customer in their data base so they can recieve a check?

Show me any where customers get a part of the revenues for NOT telling anyone and for NOT enrolling any new customers themselves

-that it looks, sounds and acts like one, is NOT an . You just have not sat with anyone who understands the brilliance of the to understand

-Oh, and which month are you listed in -- and which list? Like I'm going to have you at my door? My identity is mine. You make assumptions. You don't even know if I am male or female !

-Prepaid Millennium Associates

Although it is unsettling, it certainly is plausible that there are two people as ignorant as you and wahoo-boy who both stumbled into this forum. I'm sure there are many other ambots out there who are at least as ignorant as the two of you who simply haven't figured out how to use (or can't afford) a computer.

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- psycho wrote--

- -Now that you have publicly admitted that you and wyoow are the same - -person, there isn't much need to prove it anymore.

- You just don't get sarcasam do you. its simple really. just look at the - headers and you will find that we are different

- Bill - Dreams are the touchstone of our character

- H.D. Thoreau

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Have you any knowledge on the system profit? I am looking for detailed information, not generalities. I have checked out pretty much all the anti-Amway sites but have found relatively no information on the system profit in WWDB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

In article <7vq2jm$9v@nnrp1.deja.com-,

psychoma@my-deja.com wrote: - Yes, I was in Worldwide Dreambuilders, under the Bill Britt, Ron - Puryear, Jimmy Head, and Joe Foglio line. I have posted my story on - the "Confessions of an Amway/Quixtar Cult Survivor" thread.

- I have been there, and speak from experience.

- In article <7vok14$8i@nnrp1.deja.com-, - larry2@my-deja.com wrote: - - Were you ever involved with an AMO? If so which one? Who was your - - upline if you were at one time a distributor?

- - - Well, the lies, the deceipt, the manipulations, the cult tactics, - - - the unabashed abuses, those are all part of the problem.

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Retire With Us Sooner <no_s@hotmail.com- wrote in news

- Prepaid Millennium Associates wrote in news

- Did you know that Prepaid has breakaways, qualifyers and clawbacks? Qualifiers?

1. IF you chose to become an Associate, and only about 1 in 7 of our Members are, you have no qualifiers to remain in the income stream except to keep you membership active ($25.00 a month, usually)

2. IF you chose to become an Associate, but NOT a Member, you are required to sell at least 3 service plans a quarter.

Clawbacks?

Never heard of them. This is another word you have made up.

Breakaways?

Love them! I receive overrides on every one!

- And - unscupulous management from the now defunct "people's ?" Do you know - about the fines paid by the owner of PPL? The people associated wtih The People's that came on board with PPL include a number of wonderful and ethical people, and TPN never paid, now was anyone in TPN ever asked to pay any fines by anyone while serving in any function with TPN. You are of course referring to Jeff Olson, who paid a rather large settlement amount for activities, which I am sure he now regrets, while associated with a different, prior .

- Now let's continue The rest is just more obvious brainwashed distributor doubletalk, and not worth the time to respond to, point for point. Brian, you can not admit that I know quite a bit about your and the flim-flam scam you try to perpetrate here, and do an even better job of "dancing", "evading" and outright lieing than even the most ardent Amway Distributor.

Prepaid Millennium Associates prepaid 2000 at my-Deja dot com

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In a message dated 04.11.1999 02:41:05 Central Standard Time,

w@my-deja.com writes: << How come the site has worked perfectly for all 450 of us, even on 9-1- 99? Maybe you need a new ISP? who knows? Or are you on P&Gs payroll also? --

This is simply a lie. The few that made it into the site on 9.1.99 found nothing worked. Then they took the site offline. It simply wasn't connected to the Internet. It is common, public knowledge that it took two weeks for Amway to make the Quixtar site even marginally functional after the opening date. Let's not rehash that debacle, how about it.

Jim

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